Encore Post: We have two examples of the dead interacting from where they await the resurrection of all flesh. These two share little with us. But we need to know what they do share.
In Luke 16, we have the parable of the Rich Man and Lazarus. In torment in Hell, the nameless Rich Man is allowed to see Abraham and Lazarus. He speaks with Abraham. There is no interaction between him and Lazarus. The Rich Man sees nothing else of Heaven or Earth. And Abraham defines their positions thusly: “…between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.” (Luke 16:26)
We are probably safe in assuming that this is an abnormal interaction. The Rich Man sees neither Heaven itself nor the chasm separating them. His address to Abraham, directing him to order Lazarus, reveals no change of mind or understanding about his own state or lack of authority. He is hardened in his wickedness.
St. John reveals the souls of the martyrs under the altar, who speak. “When he opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the witness they had borne. They cried out in a loud voice, “O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.” (Revelation 6:9-11)
These saints under that altar have no love for the sin on the earth. They are purified of all sin. As a result, they see the whole earth as evil and in need of vengeance. We don’t want the souls at rest in heaven to see us. They will only see our sin. Jesus has compassion for us and is saving us. They do not and cannot save us. In part, this is also why we do not pray to the saints. They would cry out for our blood if they could hear us.
Thanks be to God that we are separated from there. We have one mediator between God and man, between Heaven and Earth. Jesus speaks for us, forgives our sin, and prepares a place for us. In faith, we await our own admission. In faith, we will rest secure. In faith, we will receive a crown of glory that we do not deserve.
Hang tight—What About the Disposition of Our Remains? Comes next.
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Rev. Jason M. Kaspar
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Does this mean that the soul has some sort of shape so they can wear the white robe? Or is this just for the martyr. Is the martyr soul different from a regular person?
Belinda, That’s a great question. First, is seems like all of us coming out of the tribulation are dressed in white. The martyrs are also given a white robe, which is somehow different. The particulars of how and what are not given to us to know. Second, as far as the souls wearing robes, this is before the resurrection. So, there is some way that souls are dressed in white and can wear robes, but not in a bodily way. How is beyond our necessary understanding again.