Political discourse usually only makes it into our discussion circles when politicians ham-fistedly offer a theological soliloquy. This is one of those times. The politician is James Talarico, a Texas State House Representative of District 52: the Round Rock, Taylor, Hutto. And Georgetown areas of Williamson County.
James is a sitting representative since 2018 and an aspiring pastor, attending Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary. He expects to graduate with a MDiv in 2025. He’s active and preaches at St. Andrew Presbyterian Church, Austin (Politico). Considering that, his theological claims, which come from a mingled existence in the left and righthand kingdoms, are fair game for us to address.
Rep. Talarico recently gave a sermon at his home church, including this clip. (You can also listen here).
“Look around us. If this was truly a Christian nation, we would forgive student debt. If this was truly a Christian nation, we would guarantee health care to every single person. If this was truly a Christian nation, we would love all of our LGBTQ neighbors. If this was truly a Christian nation, we would make sure every child in the state and in this country was housed, fed, clothed, educated, and insured. If this was truly a Christian nation, we would never make it a Christian nation because we know the table of fellowship is open to everybody including our Buddhist, Hindu, Jewish, Muslim, Sikh, and atheist neighbors. Jesus could have started a Christian theocracy. But, love would never do that. The closest thing we have to the Kingdom of heaven is a multiracial, multicultural democracy; where power is truly shared among all people; something that’s yet to exist in human history.”
There’s a lot to unpack here. Much of it is delivered in a shorthand of sorts. So, let’s examine the bits individually. These are predominantly strawman arguments. In the strawman logical fallacy, the arguer creates a position you do not hold and assigns the position to you. Then they proceed to attack you for a position you don’t hold. It’s an error. But, it’s best done and can be effective when the false position is near to or can easily be confused with your own actual position.
“If this was truly a Christian nation…”
It is well established that the Christianness of the US is diminishing rapidly. Have a look at the Pew Research article “Nones on the Rise” here. Both the percentage of self-described regular churchgoers and the number of attendances currently considered regular are falling. Most recently, self-described “regularly attending” church goers consider once a month or more regular attendance. Thirty years ago, people would not identify themselves as “regularly attending” at fewer than three times a month.
The Christian nature of the founding of the US is debatable. We are certainly the product of a Christian moral and ethical culture, as well as a Christian influenced legal system. While morality and legal fairness are fruits of Christianity, they are not the Christianity which produces them.
Look at Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Jews, Christian Scientists, and a host of other Christian adjacent heresies. These folks often make excellent neighbors. They are predominantly law-abiding patriots. But, their proximity to Christianity and the values thereby influenced don’t make them Christian. Only faith given by the Holy Spirit causes Christianity.
“We would forgive student debt.”
First, all debts are paid; either by the borrower or the lender. (James Grant) The concept of “debt forgiveness” is a misappropriation of the Christian doctrine of forgiveness. The forgiveness of sins is a free gift for us, received by grace through faith. Our debt was paid by Jesus’s suffering and death. Without His taking on the punishment, there is no forgiveness.
Forgiving a financial debt simply and only transfers the debt to the other party. Consider the commandments. “The Seventh Commandment—You shall not steal. What does this mean? We should fear and love God so that we do not take our neighbor’s money or possessions, or get them in any dishonest way, but help him to improve and protect his possessions and income” (Small Catechism 1.7).
Externally removing a debt from the borrower, without a court’s adjudication, is theft. The money borrowed has been spent; the school received and spent it. The lender here pays the debt. In the case of federally secured student debt, you are paying the debt. There is no such thing as government money. There are only taxes, collected and spent.
“We would guarantee health care to every single person.”
The discussion of debt forgiveness above applies here too. But, there is another issue at play. There are only three things that can affect the distribution of a limited supply, outstripped by demand. Price control, supply & demand valuation, or rationing. The claim about guaranteed health care also ignores the undeniable access everyone has to emergency medicine.
In the case of price controls, we run afoul of the commandments again. “The Fifth Commandment—You shall not murder. What does this mean? We should fear and love God so that we do not hurt or harm our neighbor in his body, but help and support him in every physical need” (SC 1.5). This is where we understand the evil of slavery. We may not take the life of our neighbor expended in labor without just compensation. The justness of pay is determined by negotiation of the laborer and employer. When that fails, the laborer is free to leave, seeking better opportunities.
When price restrictions are placed universally on medicine, our government seeks to compel labor from medical professionals without just compensation. Without lateral options outside of the employer/laborer dynamic, this takes a form of slavery.
Rationing creates a need for an executioner. Someone has to decide who does or doesn’t receive the limited supply of care. Or, someone has to schedule the limited supply of care so far in the future as to be useless. This is a fifth commandment problem again.
“We would love all of our LGBTQ neighbors.”
Rep. Talarico speaks from a true antinomian* viewpoint. He is speaking in the shorthand of his tradition to demand acceptance and glorification of the LGBTQ lifestyle. Antinomianism isn’t actually against the Law in function. It rejects God’s law and replaces it with a new law. The law of acceptance takes the place of the ten commandments. This new law doesn’t have an atoning savior. You must atone for your sins against “acceptance” for yourself.
(*Antinomianism–a teaching that rejects the Law of God entirely from the lives of Christians. Antinomian, the term is derived from the Latin prefix: “anti-” meaning against and the Greek word: “nomos” meaning the Law. The error pops-up often in Christianity. Antinomians must also reject the concepts of sin and guilt. “What shall we say, then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?” (Romans 6:1-2). St. Paul was speaking against this sort of thing.)
As we’ve heard many other times, that isn’t love. In love, we can never encourage our neighbor in sin. True godly love seeks to warn our neighbor of the danger of their sin. Love is kind, but love doesn’t leave our neighbor to perish in transgression.
“We would make sure every child in the state and in this country was housed, fed, clothed, educated, and insured.”
James Talarico is covering over the state’s wicked role in harming children by ignoring the decalogue. “The Sixth Commandment—You shall not commit adultery. What does this mean? We should fear and love God so that we lead a sexually pure and decent life in what we say and do, and husband and wife love and honor each other.
Our rulers have and continue to build a society that encourages divorce and single parenthood. This causes great harm. Children in fatherless homes are four times more likely to end up in poverty (Source: U.S. Census Bureau, Children’s Living Arrangements and Characteristics: March 2011, Table C8. Washington D.C.: 2011). The situation of poverty among children would be mitigated best by encouraging and rewarding marriage and child rearing within that estate. Discouraging divorce would follow behind as a close second.
“We would never make it a Christian nation because we know the table of fellowship is open to everybody, including our Buddhist, Hindu, Jewish, Muslim, Sikh, and atheist neighbors. Jesus could have started a Christian theocracy. But love would never do that.”
James is erroneously attributing Christian Nationalism to a non-specified group, intended to include all Christians. There simply aren’t these people in the US, or at least not in sufficient number to change anything. A Christian morality isn’t the same as Christianity. But, we spook at the accusation of Christian Nationalism. This isn’t an accident.
He is also speaking theologically from his Presbyterian position on fellowship in the Lord’s Supper. On the contrary, the table of fellowship is closed in the growing orthodox Christian traditions. We want folks to join fellowship and be catechized. But, the Lord tells us of the harm to unbelievers and those not instructed.
“You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons. Shall we provoke the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than he?” (1 Corinthians 10:21-22). “Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty concerning the body and blood of the Lord.” (1 Corinthians 11:27).
“The closest thing we have to the Kingdom of heaven is a multiracial, multicultural democracy; where power is truly shared among all people; something that’s yet to exist in human history.”
This side of the resurrection, we will never see that perfection. That perfection can only be perfect and perfected in Christ Jesus. Humorously, Ronald Reagan said, “Communism [Socialism/Marxism/Progressivism] only works in two places: Heaven where they don’t need it and hell where they already have it.” The Lord promised us a share in this salvation. “For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to promise.” (Galatians 3:27-29).
In the resurrection, we have a promise so much greater than the false flag of divisive multiculturalism. We have a promise of no nation, race, language, or culture. “After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands, and crying out with a loud voice, ‘Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!’” (Revelation 7:9-10). In the resurrection, all the divisions caused by sin’s corruption will be wiped away. We will be one again, praising with one voice, tireless and free from the corruption of sin.
All are one in Christ,
Rev. Jason M. Kaspar – Sole Pastor
Mt. Calvary Lutheran Church & Preschool
La Grange, TX
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